tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post4845654440326506057..comments2024-03-27T23:11:38.102+01:00Comments on 'MLM' The American Dream Made Nightmare: Oklahoma Pension Fund's failed 'Herbalife (HLF)' lawsuit - a brief analysis.David Brearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11122471861776758998noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post-32066969265002600202015-12-03T09:41:32.773+01:002015-12-03T09:41:32.773+01:00Anonymous - In essence, you have described how so-...Anonymous - In essence, you have described how so-called 'MLM' functions, but I wouldn't dismiss 'MLM' adherents as 'creeps.' That said, whilst they remain under the influence of their groups, 'MLM' adherents invariably behave in an extremely creepy way.<br /><br />Might I ask what is the occupation which has brought you into contact with 'many co-workers mad on MLM?' <br /><br />Are you perhaps a teacher or a police officer?David Brearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122471861776758998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post-30317712686225921402015-12-03T09:32:52.596+01:002015-12-03T09:32:52.596+01:00Speaking as someone who seen many co-workers mad o...Speaking as someone who seen many co-workers mad on MLM, I can confirm all they are interested in is recruiting you not selling products for a profit.<br /><br />I agree with this blog. MLM is a cult religion. Devotees are creeps hypnotised by their own dreams. They are buying overpriced crap each month and looking for more creeps to buy more overpriced crap. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post-47016734935749714452015-11-28T12:41:22.922+01:002015-11-28T12:41:22.922+01:00Anonymous - Previously, the judge actually acknowl...Anonymous - Previously, the judge actually acknowledged essentially what you have written, but in effect ruled that the plaintiffs had, therefore, no excuse for not spotting the pyramid scam themselves.<br /><br />Judge Fischer is, therefore, saying '(share) buyer beware!'<br /><br />Remember, the Judge refused to allow the lawsuit to continue, not because she thought that 'Herbalife' isn't a fraud, but because she thought that the plaintiffs had failed to show that 'Herbalife' is a fraud or that the corporate officers of 'Herbalife' had specifically misled them into investing in what they (the investors) alleged to be a fraud, but which they hadn't spotted until Ackman pointed it out.<br /><br />In reality, the bosses of 'Herbalife' are part of syndicate of cultic racketeers who have misled the entire world for decades. 'Herbalife' is undoubtedly a dissimulated criminal enterprise which should never have been allowed to be capitalised on Wall Street in the first place, but this wider analysis is completely beyond the limited scope of this particular lawsuit.<br /><br />What actually annoys me about this ruling is the fact that the judge was not confronted with the hidden quantifiable results of the so-called 'Herbalife MLM Income Opportunity' and then obliged to give her own honest opinion of whether 'Herbalife's' corporate officers have been withholding this key-information from the public, and whether this is, therefore, an entirely-lawful enterprise for any ill-informed member(s) of the public to become involved with.David Brearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122471861776758998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post-85891108407729637442015-11-28T12:05:21.157+01:002015-11-28T12:05:21.157+01:00When you ask anyone in the street or a bar they a...When you ask anyone in the street or a bar they all know herbalife is a pyramid scam and many say it's a cult. The judge must have known this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post-83687623620907452302015-11-28T11:01:28.698+01:002015-11-28T11:01:28.698+01:00Anonymous - 'MLM' cultic labyrinths have b...Anonymous - 'MLM' cultic labyrinths have been specifically designed to shut down the critical and evaluative facutlies of not just their victims, but also those of all casual observers (including judges). <br /><br />The sad truth is that the more highly-educated a casual observer of 'MLM' is, the less likely he/she is to want to admit that they cannot fully-understand what they are really examining. <br /><br />Other thought-provoking questions for Judge Fischer would have been:<br /><br />Are you aware of the origin of the jargon term 'MLM Income Opportunity?' <br /><br />Are you aware of the quantifiable results of the 'MLM' phenomenon, i.e. the overall number of individuals who have signed contracts with so-called 'MLM' companies in which they were arbitrarily defined as 'Distributors' or 'Business Owners', and the percentage of these contractees who have generated an overall net-profit from their so-called MLM business activities? <br /><br />Can you briefly explain how so-called 'MLM Income Opportunities' function, but only using accurate fully-deconstructed language?David Brearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122471861776758998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post-56830862122691020552015-11-28T10:44:14.201+01:002015-11-28T10:44:14.201+01:00You have got the right question. This judge is fri...You have got the right question. This judge is frightened to say in public what she would say in private.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post-55940129905877351912015-11-27T13:16:11.924+01:002015-11-27T13:16:11.924+01:00Anonymous - Agreed, but if the financial/legal adv...Anonymous - Agreed, but if the financial/legal advisors to a major pension fund, couldn't initially recognise the criminal enterprise lurking behind 'Herbalife/MLM,' then what chance have victims? <br /><br />That said, I feel that the various attorneys to the plaintiffs in this civil case were trying to jump on a band-wagon. Furthermore, it is not known if the plaintiffs also filed criminal complaints against 'Herbalife' with law enforcement agencies.<br /><br />I personally would have advised the plaintiffs to file criminal complaints against 'Herbalife' and to have filed a civil suit seeking damages under RICO.<br /><br />That would have sent a clear signal to everyone.<br /><br />David Brearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122471861776758998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post-5962823346244641792015-11-27T13:00:38.401+01:002015-11-27T13:00:38.401+01:00This ruling will send out a very confusing signal ...This ruling will send out a very confusing signal to Herbalife victims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com