tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post5553195860156279481..comments2024-03-27T23:11:38.102+01:00Comments on 'MLM' The American Dream Made Nightmare: The tragicomic (failed) prosecution of 'Lyoness Australia'.David Brearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11122471861776758998noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post-74846843559187937092015-10-25T09:36:49.974+01:002015-10-25T09:36:49.974+01:00Anonymous from the USA - Have you filed a complain...Anonymous from the USA - Have you filed a complaint with FTC?David Brearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122471861776758998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post-64754273386861786792015-10-25T09:35:33.775+01:002015-10-25T09:35:33.775+01:00Anonymous from Australia - This is classic thought...Anonymous from Australia - This is classic thought-stopping 'income opportunity' bullshit. In simple terms, the bosses of the 'Lyoness' racket have told you Utopian lies to persuade you to give them your cash, and keep giving them your cash, but they won't ever give you your cash back.<br /><br />The more-linguistically, and mathematically, complex the pretext for handing over your money: the less chance victims have of working out the fraud. The more-linguistically, and mathematically, complex the pretext for not giving victims their cash back, the less-likely they are to persist with their complaint.<br /><br />As I pointed out in the article, it beggars belief that Justice Flick has not acted in defence of his fellow citizens, recognised what has been happening behind all this absurd bullshit and put a stop to this unoriginal, sinister, foreign-controlled, blame the victim, cultic racket.David Brearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122471861776758998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post-55319221292610070232015-10-25T09:06:57.471+01:002015-10-25T09:06:57.471+01:00I was a "Lyoness Premium Member" in Aust...I was a "Lyoness Premium Member" in Australia and I now know it's a scam. If you try to get your cash back they will try to get more cash from you. When I tried to cancel my membership I was sent this email.<br /><br /><br />"We have received your request to cancel your membership of our Lyoness Loyalty Programme. As you know, your membership of the Programme is governed by the General Terms and Conditions and the Additional General Terms and Conditions with Lyoness Asia (Agreement). We advise that at this point in time you have an open order in the form of your Down Payment. In accordance with the Agreement and to ensure your down payment is not forfeited, the following options are advised to assist you in your cancellation:<br /><br />1. Re-Cash:<br /><br />You may elect to have any already-transacted Partial/Down Payment to be paid out to you through your own purchases as a Lyoness member (regardless of shopping type). In this case, the Loyalty Benefits from your purchases through Lyoness (via Cashback Card, Mobile Vouchers, Online Shopping, Vouchers/Gift Cards) are credited directly to your private account rather than to the Lyoness Loyalty Programme. This continues until the Partial/Down payment is either partially or fully-refunded. The direct and indirect Friendship Bonus still goes to the respective Recommender. Should you decide on the Re-Cash option, we ask you to send us a short email to office@lyoness.com.au so that the correct form can be sent to you.<br /><br />Example: The Member Benefit Code (MBC) of the selected Loyalty Merchant is J (Member Benefit 10%). This Member Benefit is normally divided as follows: 2% Cashback, 1% Friendship Bonus and 7% would be collected on your Loyalty Account and would be generated as new units. With Re-Cash, the 7% Loyalty Benefit is paid out as well and consequently, you receive 9% in cash in your private account.<br /><br />No further units will be generated but this allows you to get the return of your Down Payment while remaining a Lyoness Member.<br /><br />2. Top-up Payment:<br /><br />Just like with each Partial/Down Payment for a Voucher Order, you also can do a Top-Up Payment any time at Lyoness in consideration of the Lyoness Member Benefit Code (MBC). You can then use the total amount (Partial/Down Payment for a Voucher Order + Partial/Remaining Payment) at one of our numerous Loyalty Merchants as Vouchers.<br /><br />Example: The Member Benefit Code of the selected Loyalty Merchant is J (Member Benefit 10%). You have made a Partial/Down Payment for a Voucher Order of 75 AUD, so you pay 675 AUD (90 %) and generate Vouchers worth 750 AUD.<br /><br />You do not have to make your Remaining/Partial Payment at the Loyalty Merchant which you have indicated on your Partial/Down Payment for Voucher Order. You can change the Loyalty Merchant in the process of the Remaining/Partial Payment. The Remaining/Partial Payment amount changes according to the MBC of the selected Loyalty Merchant. Each Lyoness Loyalty Merchant has the respective MBC in its detailed description (the full list of Member Benefit Codes for Australian Loyalty Merchants is available on our Lyoness website www.lyoness.net/au).<br /><br />Please let us know your preferred option by notifying us by email to office@lyoness.com.au, so that we can send you the correct documentation and process your request as quickly as possible."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7762286463497378104.post-66179282824864204012015-10-25T08:59:32.640+01:002015-10-25T08:59:32.640+01:00Is this judge blind or stupid?
Friends lured us ...Is this judge blind or stupid? <br /><br />Friends lured us into the "win win Lyoness deal" and we joined for free. At first we bought the gift cards for 2% cash back whilst shopping, but there were no earnings and we kept doing this for months. Our friends kept telling us to buy 3 "boxes" at $75.00 with any partner company so that the money would have a place to grow when our downline started to grow and duplicate..<br /><br />After months, we still had no earnings, so I asked for my $225 back. I called the customer service line and sent an email. Lyoness sent us back to our upline friends. I asked our "friends" to help, but they said I should hand over $11 000 more on the 3 boxes, because the $225 was 'a non refundable down payment.' <br /><br /> I wrote the Lyoness Compliance Department in NYC, but nor eply. We have now dropped our "friends" and Lyoness. When you are giving Lyoness money they are all over you, but if you want your money back,they're nowhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com