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Readers please note that, as a result of well-informed complaints to Carrefour in France and Lego in Denmark, both these reputable European companies now no longer do business with the 'Lyoness' racketeers ( Jan 7th, 2013).
I have recently been asked some classic questions about the so-called 'Lyoness Income Opportunity' :
- How can 'Lyoness' be a fraud, when it is partnered with the world's largest companies?
- If people were just giving their money to 'Lyoness,' then perhaps it would be a fraud... but since they are buying gift tokens and getting a cash-back discount, surely it can't be a pyramid fraud?
Now if readers just stop for a moment to think, the word, 'Lyoness,' has been taken from various traditional myths surrounding the legendary 'King Arthur,' in which 'Lyonesse' is the name of a Kingdom that is supposed to have sunk beneath the Atlantic Ocean deep in the mists of time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyonesse .
In the Utopian 'Lyoness Income Opportunity' kingdom, the self-appointed ruler, Hubert the Rich, has told his poor, but loyal, subjects that in order that they can also become rich, out of the kindness of his heart, he has formed alliances with the world's largest companies.
In the adult world of quantifiable reality, Hubert Freidl is a narcissistic little liar who has created a labyrinth of corporate structures which he has then used to buy gift vouchers from hundreds of legitimate commercial enterprises (large and small). Therefore, 'Lyoness' has never been acting in direct association, or partnership, with any authentic business, it has merely been a customer.
That said, by withholding key-information, Hubert Freidl has effectively-stolen the names and reputations of countless famous (and not so famous) brands around the world in order to commit fraud and also to prevent the victims of that fraud from facing reality and complaining.
When examined in splendid isolation, the 'Lyoness' cash-back scheme does appear to be lawful. However, membership of the scheme has not been 'free' (as has been widely-advertised). On the contrary, in order to join the 'Lyoness' scheme, members of the public have been obliged to buy an initial quota of gift card/vouchers (several hundreds Euros / $). In reality, the cash-back scheme has been the entrance to a classic, dissimulated closed-market swindle or Ponzi scheme. In this, a significant minority of existing 'Lyoness' members (with access to independent funds) have been deceived into investing in ever-larger quotas of gift card/vouchers (several thousands Euros / $) on the pretext that if they duplicate a proven plan and recruit their friends and relatives to buy the same ever-larger quotas of gift card/vouchers, and their recruits then duplicate the same plan, ad infinitum, eventually they will arrive at a point where they will have thousands of recruiters multiplying beneath them in the organization, enabling them to earn hundreds of thousands of Euros/$ annually in commission payments, without any further effort.
There are various commentators on so-called 'Multi-Level Marketing Income Opportunities' who have recently posted lengthy reviews of the so-called 'Lyoness Income Opportunity.'
http://behindmlm.com/companies/lyoness-us-review-cashback-and-investment-returns/
No matter how linguistically and mathematically complex the presentations (or even attempted explanations) of the so-called 'Lyoness Income Opportunity,' self-evidently, the only money flowing into the economically-incestuous 'Lyoness' pyramid, is coming from a never-ending chain of investors (arbitrarily, and falsely, defined as 'Independent Business Representatives' ) who are condemned to occupy its lower levels. Indeed, for the insignificant minority of grinning schills to have arrived at the profitable summit of the 'Lyoness' pyramid, the overwhelming majority have been required to remain as deluded, de facto slave recruiters in its unprofitable base. At the same time, all these persons' losing-investments, made on the false expectation of receiving future reward, have been laundered as 'lawful sales based on value and demand.' Furthermore, since profits have been generated from, and sales-tax paid on, these ultimately unlawful transactions, by the various companies who have sold 'Lyoness' their gift vouchers, the bosses of 'Lyoness' have actually lured legitimate businesses and governments into deriving substantial benefit from a serious fraud.
The common-sense questions which (if put to Hubert Freidl by intellectually-rigorous journalists, law enforcement agents, legislators, etc.), would begin to uncover the absurd, but nonetheless pernicious, nature of 'Lyoness,' are as follows:
Classically of an 'Income Opportunity / Prosperity Gospel' cult instigator, Hubert Freidl has sought to overwhelm his 'Lyoness' subjects emotionally and intellectually by steadfastly pretending that progressive initiation into his own secret mathematical/economic knowledge (coupled with total belief in its authenticity and unconditional deference to the authority of its higher initiates) will defeat a negative force of impurity and evil, and lead to future exclusive redemption in a Utopian existence (where no inhabitant works, but everyone is prosperous, happy and free). By making total belief a prerequisite of redemption, 'Lyoness' adherents are drawn into a closed-logic trap (i.e. failure to achieve redemption is solely the fault of the individual who didn’t believe totally). The so-called 'Lyoness Income Opportunity' is typical of cultic pseudo-science which is always essentially the same hypnotic hocus-pocus, but peddled in an infinite variety of forms and combinations (‘spiritual’, ‘medical’, ‘philosophical’, ‘cosmological', ‘extraterrestrial’, ‘political’, ‘racial’, ‘mathematical’, ‘economic’, ‘New-Age’, 'magical', etc.), often with impressive, made-up, technical-sounding names.
'Lyoness' has been tailored to fit the spirit of the times and to attract a broad range of persons, but especially those open to an exclusive offer of financial salvation. Obedient 'Lyoness' adherents (who hand over their cash) are granted ego-inflating ranks and titles, 'Premium Members', etc., whilst non-initiates are referred to using derogatory, dehumanizing terms 'losers', etc. Although initiation can at first appear to be reasonable and benefits achievable, the so-called 'Lyoness Income Opportunity' gradually becomes evermore costly and mystifying. Ultimately, it is completely incomprehensible and its claimed benefits are not quantifiable. The self-righteous euphoria and relentless enthusiasm of deluded 'Lyoness' proselytizers can be highly infectious and deeply misleading. They are totally convinced that their own financial salvation also depends on saving others.
David Brear (copyright 2012)
There are various commentators on so-called 'Multi-Level Marketing Income Opportunities' who have recently posted lengthy reviews of the so-called 'Lyoness Income Opportunity.'
http://behindmlm.com/companies/lyoness-us-review-cashback-and-investment-returns/
No matter how linguistically and mathematically complex the presentations (or even attempted explanations) of the so-called 'Lyoness Income Opportunity,' self-evidently, the only money flowing into the economically-incestuous 'Lyoness' pyramid, is coming from a never-ending chain of investors (arbitrarily, and falsely, defined as 'Independent Business Representatives' ) who are condemned to occupy its lower levels. Indeed, for the insignificant minority of grinning schills to have arrived at the profitable summit of the 'Lyoness' pyramid, the overwhelming majority have been required to remain as deluded, de facto slave recruiters in its unprofitable base. At the same time, all these persons' losing-investments, made on the false expectation of receiving future reward, have been laundered as 'lawful sales based on value and demand.' Furthermore, since profits have been generated from, and sales-tax paid on, these ultimately unlawful transactions, by the various companies who have sold 'Lyoness' their gift vouchers, the bosses of 'Lyoness' have actually lured legitimate businesses and governments into deriving substantial benefit from a serious fraud.
The common-sense questions which (if put to Hubert Freidl by intellectually-rigorous journalists, law enforcement agents, legislators, etc.), would begin to uncover the absurd, but nonetheless pernicious, nature of 'Lyoness,' are as follows:
- Since the organization's instigation, exactly how many people around the world have signed-up with 'Lyoness,' and exactly how many of these alleged 'Independent Business Representatives' have got back more money than they paid in?
- What quantifiable evidence can you supply which would prove that the so-called 'Lyoness income opportunity' has had any significant and sustainable revenue other than that deriving from a never-ending chain of losing participants?
Classically of an 'Income Opportunity / Prosperity Gospel' cult instigator, Hubert Freidl has sought to overwhelm his 'Lyoness' subjects emotionally and intellectually by steadfastly pretending that progressive initiation into his own secret mathematical/economic knowledge (coupled with total belief in its authenticity and unconditional deference to the authority of its higher initiates) will defeat a negative force of impurity and evil, and lead to future exclusive redemption in a Utopian existence (where no inhabitant works, but everyone is prosperous, happy and free). By making total belief a prerequisite of redemption, 'Lyoness' adherents are drawn into a closed-logic trap (i.e. failure to achieve redemption is solely the fault of the individual who didn’t believe totally). The so-called 'Lyoness Income Opportunity' is typical of cultic pseudo-science which is always essentially the same hypnotic hocus-pocus, but peddled in an infinite variety of forms and combinations (‘spiritual’, ‘medical’, ‘philosophical’, ‘cosmological', ‘extraterrestrial’, ‘political’, ‘racial’, ‘mathematical’, ‘economic’, ‘New-Age’, 'magical', etc.), often with impressive, made-up, technical-sounding names.
'Lyoness' has been tailored to fit the spirit of the times and to attract a broad range of persons, but especially those open to an exclusive offer of financial salvation. Obedient 'Lyoness' adherents (who hand over their cash) are granted ego-inflating ranks and titles, 'Premium Members', etc., whilst non-initiates are referred to using derogatory, dehumanizing terms 'losers', etc. Although initiation can at first appear to be reasonable and benefits achievable, the so-called 'Lyoness Income Opportunity' gradually becomes evermore costly and mystifying. Ultimately, it is completely incomprehensible and its claimed benefits are not quantifiable. The self-righteous euphoria and relentless enthusiasm of deluded 'Lyoness' proselytizers can be highly infectious and deeply misleading. They are totally convinced that their own financial salvation also depends on saving others.
David Brear (copyright 2012)
Hello and thank you for this article,
ReplyDeleteComing from a German discussion-board and only understanding 2/3 of the vocabulary,
but all of it's sense,it was a refreshment to read this opinion. In my mind,
you are totally right with the expression, that "Ly" plays with psycological means.
You in the States will probably more than we in Europe understand. the social pressure,you
have to stand, if one withdraw the "American Dream" from plate-cleaner to millionair. If you ask
LY-members for facts, you won't get an exact answer, mostly you will earn psycological foam, as I
expirienced it.And the convinced members of your family and friends will look at you as
a sceptical idiot, hoping to convice themselves, if they repat the heard slogans as often as
possible.
Keep your money with you and you will have more benefit from it then if you follow the Utopia LY
greetings from Germany
viper2000
I am, in fact, from Britain: not the USA.
ReplyDeleteSadly, 'Lyoness' is neither original nor unique. The peddling of a future, secure, Utopian existence to vulnerable persons who desperately need to believe in it, is perhaps the most-wicked fraud known to man.
David Brear (copyright 2013)
David - I have a question for you.
ReplyDeleteDo you think it is legal to take trademarks of major companies and publish them on a website without asking for permission?
All I have to say to you, is you are breaking the law yourself.
How can a man who doesn't even understand this basic law be a authority on anything.
My moral: before you pick on others, look at yourself.
Anonymous 'Lyoness' propagandist (I think we'll call you Wolfgang)- In your particularly transparent attempt to provoke me, you have conveniently ignored the self-evident truth that I have merely reported, and graphically illustrated, the irrefutable fact that all these well-known trademarks have been taken by the 'Lyoness' racketeers for the purpose of committing fraud and obstructing justice around the globe.
ReplyDeleteIt is, therefore, more than ironic that you Wolfgang, a sleazy propagandist of these trademark thieves and racketeers, should attempt to post your masters' reality-inverting bullshit on this Blog, in which you have falsely portrayed me as trademark thief.
Furthermore, not one of the reputable companies in question has raised the slightest objection to my legitmate reporting of the irrefutable fact that your 'Lyoness' masters have been pretending association with them. Indeed, as you are no doubt well-aware, a few of these companies have taken steps to put a stop to this particularly-misleading chapter of führer Freidl's pernicious fairy story.
David Brear (copyright 2013)
By the way, Wolfgang (or is it Hubert?), you will notice that your follow-up reality-inverting propaganda broadcast, in which you have again pretended absolute moral and intellectual authority, has not been posted in its totality.
DeleteFor the benefit of the readers of this Blog who might want to get a flavour of this anonymous 'Lyoness' propagandist's creepy cultic style, here is a brief extract:
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'Lyoness is growing with you or without you. You know this. You make no difference.
I leave you with one thought: Death is inevitable and we will all go one day or another. When your turn comes up, what will they say as a tribute on your funeral day. They will say, David came, complained, complained , got nowhere and left the world no different to when he got here. In fact, will any one remember you mere existance.
Think. Then Decide.
There is a difference between using your prefrontal cortex brain and your hind brain. The prefrontal cortex is about compassion and the hind brain is the reptilian type (survival mode). I think your viewers know what brain you are using.
Be a man. Accept that one makes mistakes and is chasing the wrong tail. There is time. There is Hope for you. I pray for you.'
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Readers might also be interested to know that I have taken the veiled death-threat against me, which this latest 'Lyoness' propaganda bullshit contained, as a clear attempt to intimidate me in order to continue to commit fraud and to obstruct justice.
David Brear (copyrght 2013)
Hi There. You have a interesting site with some valuable information. Please do post all the post of Wolfgang above so that I can see what Wolfgang is trying to argue about. As a third party, I want to see both sides story.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the great work that you are doing in trying to expose all the dud schemes
Anonymous - This Blog is not a platform for reality-inverting cultic propaganda - which always reflects essentially the same two-dimensional fiction as fact.
DeleteIn other words, in a pernicious cultic fairy story, like the one which controls the personalities and behaviour of 'Lyoness' core-adherents and which Wolfgang keeps trying to recite, there are always two sides:
- those who go along with the fairy story and who are systematically categorized and included by it as: enlightened, righteous, etc.
- those who refuse to accept the fairy story and who are systematically categorized and excluded by it as: unenlighted, evil, etc.
However, in the adult world of quantifiable reality (as represented on this Blog) there is only evidence-based analysis.
Therefore, your characterization of this Blog as being one side of a cultic fairy story is not accurate.
hi david thx so much for creating this blog! my best frd juz got recruited as gold member last year. he has totally acted like what u hv described! he worshipped the founder and his upline...i failed to talk him out and i feel so upset. it struck me most is that most of these ppl joining lyoness aren't stupid, but then i dont understand why they cant see what i see...i asked him all the right questions like :"what do u think the money come from?" "what happen if those merchants fall out with lyoness and u end up with a bunch of useless coupons?" ...he juz refused to listen.
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