Friday, 6 May 2016

'Utility Warehouse' - is a dissimulated closed-market swindle.

(Perhaps it's just a coincidence, but since this article was first posted, certain details of the 'Utility Warehouse' narrative have been modified; principally, the approximately £200 sign up fee for new adherents has apparently been reduced to £100).

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Recently, I've been asked for my opinion of 'Utility Warehouse', a UK registered company which claims to have '40 000 Independent Distributors' selling to 500 000 customers.'


Even the briefest examination of 'Utility Warehouse' reveals some enormous red flags. For a start, it costs approximately £200 to sign up as a 'Distributor' for 'Utility Warehouse.' The sign-up fee is then refunded if 'Utility Warehouse' contractees manage to sign up 12 more contractees within 90 days, and additional payments are also offered to the contractees for each recruit they sign up, and for the recruits of their recruits, etc. ad infinitum.




Wes Linden is a blame-the-victim 'MLM income opportunity' cultic racketeer. i.e. Mr. Linden, and his criminal associates, steal money by peddling vulnerable persons the pernicious fairy story that they have access to a proven step-by-step 'Positive Mindset' plan which can enable anyone to achieve financial freedom in 'Multi-Level/Network Marketing,' and that they are willing to share this plan with anyone (for a price). 








Wes Linden has been a pitchman/shill for 'Utility Warehouse,' and any organisation with links to the likes of Mr. Linden, should be avoided like the plague.






'Utility Warehouse' exhibits the identifying characteristics of a dissimulated closed-market swindle, in that this legally-registered company doesn't seem to have any significant, or sustainable, source of revenue other than persons who have been under contract to it, and who have been giving their time and money to it, in the false-expectation of future reward. However, the bosses of 'Utility Warehouse', seem to have been following the classic tactic of labelling the majority of their contractees (who are unable to sign up more recruits), as 'Discount Customers.'



 


In reality, behind all the unsubstantiated success testimonies, celebrity endorsements, thought-stopping 'business' jargon and mystifying mathematics, the so-called 'Utility Warehouse Multi-level /Network Marketing Income Opportunity' has been based on the crackpot pseudo-economic theory that endless-chain recruitment + endless payments by the recruits = endless profits for the recruits.


David Brear (copyright 2016)

52 comments:

  1. Hi David. The Guardian investigated Utility Warehouse in 2004 and said it wasn't a scam.

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    1. Anonymous - Rupert Jones of the Guardian published a somewhat timid article in 2009, in which he stated that 'Utility Warehouse had all the hallmarks of a scam,' but then he illogically concluded that it couldn't be a scam, simply because it was backed by a major PLC.

      http://www.theguardian.com/money/2009/dec/05/utility-warehouse-telecom-plus-distributor

      I would suggest that you carefully re-read this Guardian article from 2009, and then ask yourself if Rupert Jones asked the right questions and if 'Utility Warehouse' declared the actual quantifiable results of its so called 'MLM income opportunity.' i.e. Exactly how many people have signed up for 'Utility Warehouse' and how many people have got back more money than they handed over to it in the false-expectation of future reward.

      The answer to these questions is self-evidently 'No!' Sadly, Rupert Jones was unqualified to determine whether 'Utility Warehouse' is a self-perpetuating, dissimulated, closed-market swindle - a form of highly-profitable racketeering which has been allowed to infiltrate traditional culture all around the world right under the noses of ill-informed regulators, journalists, law enforcement agents, etc.

      Yet withholding key-information from people in order to take their money, is defined as theft (in the UK) by the fraud Act 2006 (section 3).

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    2. Are you saying Utility Warehouse is a fraud?

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    3. Anonymous - My opinion of 'Utility Warehouse' could not be more clear, so why are you asking this pointless question? It would seem that the truth about 'Utility Warehouse' is as unthinkable to you, as it was to Rupert Jones of the Guardian.

      Of course this is a fraud - it's a fraud hiding in plain sight.

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    4. Dear David, If it's a fraud then why does it win consumer and customer service awards again and again? If it's a fraud why is it still operating? If it's a fraud why have trading standards and the SFO not stepped in to stop this illegal activity? Fraud, whether hiding in plain sight or behind closed doors is fraud. Report these charlatans and be a public-spirited citizen. There's a good chap...

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    5. Anonymous - From your provoctive 'there's a good chap' tone, and your familiar thought-stopping drivel, I detect that you are involved with this swindle.

      You might have well have asked me - if Sir Jimmy Savile was a serial rapist and a paedophile, why wasn't he arrested and prosecuted. For that matter; why was he given a knighthood and various honorary degrees, not to mention the approval of Prince Charles, Margaret Thatcher and the Pope?

      The reason why Jimmy Savile's many victims didn't complain, is the same reason why virtually no one has complained about 'income opportunity' frauds, because most victims are convinced that no one will believe them.

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    6. David you are a total muppet frankly. You state that 'additional payments are also offered to the contractees for each recruit they sign up, and for the recruits of their recruits, etc. ad infinitum.' That is 100% incorrect so I assume you are basically just a total idiot trying to cause problems for companies.

      Partners get paid NOTHING for signing up new partners. They only get paid a commission when a customer signs up.

      It's a real shame people like you have a motivation to write such bull****.

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    7. Anonymous - You really are a laugh a minute; for you are merely repeating the same Orwellian bullshit previously squawked by 'Herbalife' propagandists, before they were odered to shut their beaks by federal law enforcement agents.

      It doesn't matter what reality-inverting label you arbitrarily slap on 'MLM' victims ('partners, members, distributors, customers,' etc.) in order to continue to commit fraud and dodge prosecution.

      'MLM' propagandists always insist that 'payments are not based on recruiting' and that the overwhelming majority of transient 'MLM' recruits (who have failed to recruit others and who have been compelled never to generate an overall net-profit) have merely been 'discount customers.'

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  2. If my math is correct, since there are 50 000 distributors in this MLM, and only 500 000 customers, then that's an average of just 10 customers per distributor.

    It doesn't make sense.

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    1. Anonymous - Few things about so-called 'MLM income opportunities' make any sense, because this phenomenon is a form of non-rational ritual belief, but written in a thought stopping 'commercial' jargon.

      'Utility Warehouse' claims '50 000 Distributors,' but this figure is meaningless unless we know what has been the overall churn-rate.

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    2. That's simply because many people start and then don't do any work. They get a refund and no one is harmed in the process.

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    3. Anonymous - Each time you open your beak you are only proving the validity of my overall analysis; for all 'MLM racketeers have sought to blame their victims for 'not working' (whilst pretending that anyone can get a 'refund') by parroting essentially the same script which you are now parroting.

      BTW - In the case of 'Herbalife' your blame-the-victim script has now been forbidden by the US FTC.

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  3. I've read this utter crap. Maybe the person who wrote it should have done a little more investigating before letting his fingers do the walking over the keyboards.
    I am a distributor for UW and have not been brainwashed into thinking that this is an opportunity that doesn't require work - there is no such thing. Unfortunately there are people who see the opportunity and think just that, so even though there are 50K distributors on the books, you will find that there is only a percentage of this actually doing anything. Lets face it. If these people paid thousands of pounds for a business they wouldn't sit on their backsides hoping that it will happen - there would be too much at stake. Conversly, the UW Opportunity costs £100 to join as a distributor. You then get free training on how to move your business forward. You have a mentor who is invested in you making money. Anyone out there knows that it costs more than £100 for a training course - heck, it costs £70 to have a session with a medium, and you never get your money back.... but some people will pay that.
    Just looking at the social proof. Sir Terry Wogan, after 2 years of investigating the company put his reputation on our company. The prime minister and mayor of london have visited our company, and endorsed it. We have people invovled from all walks of life, including Police officers, Fire Fighters etc all of which have to have anything they are involved in outside of work Vetted before they are allowed to do sign up. Heck, we've had journalists who have gone undercover to investigate UW have ended up joining up because they think it's a great Idea.
    What are the qualifications of the Idiot who wrote the original article?
    Don't be bitter and twisted if you tried it and screwed it up. Don't make assumptions about things you think you know about something. Have the courtesy to look at the world wide trend in NM or MLM what ever you want to call it. Have a go at Avon/Kleeneze/betterware/tupperware/forever living/herbalife etc etc etc. They are all network marketing businesses, and I do know that one of them you get money for signing distributors up. IN UW you don't. You have to put time and effort in to help someone make some money before you get any sort of income.
    Rant over. Tired of thinking now.

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    1. Unknown - Thank-you for confirming the validity of my overall analysis. Now please go way and find a copy of George Orwell's 'Animal Farm' and read it, and then come back and tell my readers which one of the intellctually castrated characters best represents your own current (intellectually castrated) point of view?

      More than half a century of quantifiable evidence, proves beyond all reasonable doubt that what has become popularly known as 'Multi-Level Marketing' is nothing more than an absurd, cultic, economic pseudo-science, and that the impressive-sounding made-up term 'MLM,' is, therefore, part of an extensive, thought-stopping, non-traditional jargon which has been developed, and constantly-repeated, by the instigators, and associates, of various, copy-cat, major, and minor, ongoing organized crime groups (hiding behind labyrinths of legally-registered corporate structures) to shut-down the critical, and evaluative, faculties of victims, and of casual observers, in order to perpetrate, and dissimulate, a series of blame-the-victim closed-market swindles or pyramid scams (dressed up as 'legitimate direct selling income opportunites'), and related advance-fee frauds (dressed up as 'legitimate training and motivation, self-betterment, programs, recruitment leads, lead generation systems,' etc.).

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    2. Hi David, all you have written is real true. I was a distributor once, although I became one just as a friend and never believed in it - so was never going to have customer because it would seem so unfair towards them As every distributor I had to be their customer as well and after a year I;ve had enough it WAS a nightmare! it wasn't easy to back out but i did even if it cost me money for early leaving and so on.
      Eventually I lose my friends I 've done this for in the first place. Thanks God it wasn't more of them!

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  4. UW is a cult. Reps all spout the same BS and refuse to hear anything "negative".

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    1. Anonymous - I am aware that a significant number of people have become concerned about the radical personality transformations of friends and relatives who have become involved with Utility Warehouse.

      In brief, it becomes impossible to have rational discussion with UW adherents. They see all persons and all evidence challenging the authenticity of the so-called 'UW income opportunity,' as being a 'negative' threat to their future 'success.'

      Eventually, persistent UW adherents will cut themselves off from all dissenters.

      These are the classic signs of a cult.

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  5. Could you give me a short resume of why UW is a fraud?

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    1. Anonymous - The following is my standard response to this FAQ.

      In 'MLM' rackets, the innocent looking products/sevices' function is to hide what is really occurring - i.e The operation of an unlawful rigged closed-market where effectively no (transient) participant can generate an overall net-profit, because the market is in a permanent state of collapse and requires its (transient) participants to keep finding further (transient) participants.

      Meanwhile a tiny (permanent) minority rake in vast profits by selling into the closed-market and by controlling all key-information concerning the closed-market's actual catastrophic, ever-shifting results.

      It is possible to use any product or service to dissimulate a closed-market swindle aka pyramid scheme. There are even some 'MLM' rackets which have hidden behind well-known traditional brands (albeit offered at controlled high prices).

      In 'MLM' rackets, there has been no significant or sustainable source of revenue other than never-ending chains of contractees of the 'MLM' front companies. These front-companies always pretend that their products services are high quality and reasonably-priced and that they can be sold for a profit based on value and demand. In reality, the underlying reason why it's mainly only been 'MLM' contractees who buy the products /services (and not the general public) is because they have been led to believe that by doing so, and by recruiting others to do the same etc. ad infinitum, they will receive a future (unlimited) reward.

      I've been examining the 'MLM' phenomenon for around 20 years. During this time, I've yet to find one so-called 'MLM' company which has voluntarily made key-information available to the public concerning the quantifiable results of its so-called 'income opportunity'.

      The key-information which all 'MLM' bosses seek to hide concerns the overall number of persons who have signed contracts since the front companies were instigated and the retention rates of these contractees.

      When rigorously investigated, the overall hidden net-loss churn rates for 'MLM' income opportunites has turned out to have been effectively 100%. Thus, anyone claiming (or implying) that it is possible make a living in an 'MLM,' cannot be telling the truth and will not provide quantifiable evidence to back up his/her anecdotal claims.

      Some of the biggest 'MLM' rackets (like 'Amway' and 'Herbalife') have secretly churned tens of millions of losing participants over decades. 'Amway' once hid behind utililies supplied by 'Enron.'

      Tellingly, the bosses of 'Utility Warehouse' have never disclosed the actual results of their so-called 'MLM Income Opportunity,' because if they did, no one in their right mind would want to sign up.

      Notice how 'UW' (just like 'Amway' and 'herbalife') has been peddled as an 'income opportunity,' and not a net-income opportunity.

      Have you been following what has recently been happening in the USA concerning the 'Herbalife' racket?

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    2. Please get your facts right if you're going to write this stuff.

      You have your facts wrong and the issues in the USA relate to distributors being sold something that the up line distributor benefits from. UW partners get NOTHING from the sign up fee from a distributor. It is illegal for the company to pay for recruiting people.

      In product based businesses distributors can buy products and then try to sell them on -that's been the big issue - distributors being lumbered with product they can't shift.

      UW sells electricity and broadband. Distributors can't buy this and keep it in the garage can they? They simply introduce people to the business and then the customers pay directly to UW not a distributor.

      So all the issues raised in the USA are irrelevant and your generic MLM' racket nonsense is a total disgrace.

      Finally, the worst thing can that happen is they pay the sign up fee and then don't do any work - they they AUTOMATICALLY get a full refund after 90 days.

      So, WTF are you talking about? I get that you probably think you're helping people but you're simply making this stuff up and then claiming it's truth - how is that helpful?

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    3. Anonymous - Oh dear, you'll have to do a lot better than that; for your tightly-scritpted-stupidity beggars belief. When are anonymous little 'MLM' propagandists (like you) finally going to realise that your universal bleating only proves the validity of my analysis? Indeed, your type wouldn't even make an appearance on this Blog if 'MLM' wasn't the cover for a racket.

      Typically, you arrogantly pretend moral and intellectual authority and ask me what the fuck am I talking about?

      Normally I don't respond to provocative 'MLM' sheep, but in your case I'll make an exception.

      Even though you steadfastly pretend that 'Utility Warehouse' is completely different to 'MLM' cultic rackets facing investigation in the USA (presumeably, you are referring to 'Herbalife'), laughably, your transparent script completely ignores what I have actually written and is, therefore, typical of 'Herbalife's' own jargon-spouting sheep. The 'Herbalife' racketeers also included 'money back guarantees' in their fairy story.

      Thus, please go away and read the UK's Fraud Act 2006 (section 3) then come back and tell me how many individuals have signed up with 'Utility Warehouse' since it was first instigated and how many of these transient contractees have got back more money from 'UW' than they have paid to it?

      In plain language, I'm merely applying common-sense and asking you for the overall churn/loss rate for participation in the so-called 'Utility Warehouse MLM Income Opportunity.'

      Bearing in mind the Fraud Act 2006 (section 3), could you please explain to my readers any lawful reason why this key-information has been withheld from the public and from regulators?

      I'll bet you anything you like that you (or any other 'UW' propagandist) can't supply full and frank answers to any of the above questions.

      BTW. Until the 'Herbalife' racket was recently partially busted by the FTC, its own propagandists had been hiding the same key-information - When challenged they steadfastly pretended that they didn't have access to it.

      So please don't attempt that familiar 'MLM' dodge?

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  6. Another Anonymous21 November 2016 at 03:58

    I completely agree with David and I'm not the only one.

    http://www.acherontiq.com/blog/bollocks/utility-warehouse-discount-club-just-dont-for-your-own-sanity/

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    1. Thanks Another Anonymous - anyone with an ounce of common sense can immediately deduce that the 'Utility Warehouse' fairy story is far too good to be true. You might be interested to know that I've only ever had one UK journalist asking me about 'Utility Warehouse,' but subsequently, no article appeared. Interestingly, the journalist had been prospected by a family member and had even attended a gung-ho 'UW' meeting in Chesire. The first question the journalist asked me was:

      'This is one of those cults isn't it?'

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  7. A reader sent me this link from a UK local Newspaper. It features deluded recruiters from various 'MLM' rackets (including 'Utility Warehouse' and 'Herbalife') all appearing together.

    http://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news/business/event-at-gaywood-library-gives-insight-into-working-from-home-1-7659619

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  8. Thank you David for your analysis. Having been approached by UW repeatedly over the last year or so, and having some misgivings about it, I'm glad I'm doing my research. It looks like pyramid selling, sounds like pyramid selling, so therefore...I also take issue with the fact that discounts apply when spending more money with selected retailers, the old marketing scam of spend more to save more. Being forced to spend money doesn't sit well with me.

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    1. Anonymous - Further research has been published by my associate Robert FitzPatrick (President of Pyramid Scheme Alert). This clearly shows that 'Utility Warehouse' has been copied from various US-based scams.

      e.g. 'Stream Energy' which was sued in 2009

      http://pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/news/StreamEnergySuedasPyramid.html

      The Texas-based MLM, Stream Energy, which sells gas and electric utilitiy services in Texas and in Georgia, has been sued for operating a pyramid scheme. The civil suit, which is seeking class ation status, claims that Stream misrepresents income potential, misleads consumers to invest as salespeople, is causing the great majority of "sales people" to lose money and is destined to collapse.
      The suit notes that the ratio of Stream customers to salespeople is now only two to one. Therefore the income potential could only come from recruiting other sales people in an endless chain fashion. In such a plan, only a very small number can be successful and all others are doomed to failure. Stream's pay plan is a typical MLM that pays earlier investors with funds invested by new ones in an "endless chain" plan.
      The lawsuit will be eerily familiar to consumers who have watched the MLM industry. Stream is a type of MLM similar to Pre-Paid Legal, the now defunct Excel Communications, the travel scheme, My TravelBiz.com that was prosecuted as a pyramid scheme in California, and the telephone scheme, ACN which has also been prosecuted in Canada and Australia, but was able to continue based on rulings by judges. These schemes offer payments based on the number of new sales people recruited and each salesperson must also have a small number of retail customers to be qualified for commissions.
      By using the endless chain pay plan the scheme can drive a large number of sales, though almost no sales people actually earn a profit and virtually none actually earn a profit for "direct selling." Excel, for example, recruited 500,000 American salespeople in one year at one point and quickly became the 4th largest long distance phone service in America. Yet, 80% of its salespeople were quitting each year. It quickly spiked and declined rapidly, eventually going bankrupt, ruining all distributors and all shareholders. Pre-Paid Legal also enjoyed fast growth, but now is in steep decline, with recruiting slowing and the ratio of "retail" customers to salespeople narrowing. My Travel Biz became the 17th largest travel agency in America, though virtually none of its salespeople actually earned a profit from retail travel sales. The big earners were making money off all the other salespeople's investments.
      In these cases, the products are sold at competitive prices, but each salesperson must pay upfront and monthly fees in order to participate in the chain. The net result is to produce a large base of customers, but the incentives and promises made to the salespeople – which produce the sales – turn out to be false. The salespeople are churned in huge numbers as they discover that it is mathematically impossible for them to build their own large downlines.
      Most other MLMs – which constitute a variation on the pyramid selling model – have virtually no retail customers at all and they usually hype grossly overpriced products. 40-60% of those high prices are then transferred to the top of the pyramid. In those cases, the MLM companies do not track retail sales at all, though they may officially claim that each salespeople is required to make retail sales.
      The Stream Energy model builds in a requirement for a small number of retail sales, giving an appearance of greater validity. Some news analysts are blinded by the large number "sales" these schemes produce. They also do not understand the pyramid pay plan that tricks the salespeople into losing their investments and wasting their time and effort.

      http://pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/news/StreamClassComplaint.pdf

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  9. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/energy-bills/11115159/Investigation-into-how-energy-companies-chase-debts.html

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  10. If a comic like John Oliver can understand what makes MLMs scams, then why can't regulators?

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    1. ABotwatcher - You need a certain type of mind to see this tragicomic phenomenon clearly. A good sense of humour also helps.

      John Oliver's humorous presentation began to explain that 'MLM' racketeers have co-opted senior regulators by offering them jobs.

      Also, don't forget that the fully-deconstructed explanation of 'MLM' cultic racketeering has precious little connection with business. In many respects, the fact that business regulators have been tasked with looking at 'MLM' cults, has been a victory in itself for their bosses.

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  11. Good morning all the above is quite good fun but we should all be more factual

    I am a UW agent and sell the members package to save money all the time.

    Keeping it simple become a customer first if it works join the business if you want more income.

    But please remeber we get nothing when you join the business unless we help you find customers

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    1. Chris Morely - Please note, I have posted your comment, but I have removed your link to the 'UW' recruitment Site.

      The rest of your comment is just classic 'MLM' thought-stopping BS which you have obviously copied.

      I note that, like all 'MLM' parrots, your script very specifically does not claim to offer a net-income to recruits.

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  12. Interesting. Here is my take.

    I Have been a customer for around 3-4 years now, my friend showed me this and yes was skeptical at first, he showed me his bill and was a very good friend. I save on average around £400 a year. it is because of this i'm seriously considering doing this business myself, hence me seeing this site.

    Without his recommendation, and if Utility Warehouse had put an advert on the TV, there is no way i would have changed. Its an absolute minefield out there, full of untrustworthy suppliers. So i am, so glad he came, and i am glad he makes money from it. In changing suppliers i had been thinking about it but was scared not knowing where to start.

    Networking is simply a route to market. TV advertising is a route to Market. Newspaper Ads is a route to market. Nothing illegal with any of them. Martin Lewis makes millions as he has built a 'NETWORK' of people. He uses affiliate links on his website so he gets paid. Its a form of marketing.

    News reports say - 71% of people are overpaying on their utilities. I was one of them. I think you are upset because people can make money from it, yes i know it requires effort. I run a business which requires tonnes of effort. People need to be shown and on a personal level is great.

    Just a week ago, my friend Rang me to change my tariff and save another £70 and book in my free LED bulbs. Do you see British Gas ringing me to lower my tariff?? I don't think so.

    Have you ever had a sales man/women in your home?. Double Glazing, Solar Panels, etc. Remember he/she will get paid, so will his/her area manager, so will his/her national manager, so will his/her CEO. OR Would you have just ordered your double glazing or solar panels over the phone? Big difference personal and over the phone, don't you think?

    Next time you see a special offer in a supermarket, and you tell a friend or family member, this was £££ at XXXX. Remember what you have done..

    Why is Sainsburys, Marks & Spencers a lot more expensive than Lidl and Aldi??? its a business... The same way British Gas and Eon are a lot more expensive than Utility Warehouse....

    I can join for £10 not even £100.... so if you think its a fraud, why don't you report it to Action Fraud, or Trading Standards.

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    1. Anonymous - Who ever you are, you have foolishly given yourself away, because your entire comment contains not one original statement or one shred of quantifiable evidence that any participant in 'UW' has made an overall net-income. Indeed, certain of the statements, and money making anecdotes, you have posted here, can be found being parroted by the adherents of other so-called 'MLM Income Opportunities.'



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    2. My orignal statement was not intended to give 'Proof' or 'Quantifiable evidence that they have a net income'. What do you want, their bank statements?

      I'm sorry, i don't ask anyone how much they earn. But my friend has been doing it for around 5 years.

      I know my Friend better than you, i can tell you this, if he was not making any money then he would have quit some time ago... And with 1000s of distributors up and down the country, im sure there would be a lot more negative press if they were not making a Net Income.

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    3. "My orignal statement was not intended to give 'Proof' or 'Quantifiable evidence that they have a net income'. What do you want, their bank statements?"

      No, but I'm dying to see their UW-related income-tax payment receipts (I'll bet you anything you like that these won't be forthcoming).

      I have been examining so-called 'MLM income opportunities' for more than 20 years. During this time, I've yet to encounter any 'MLM' adherent who has examined the income-tax receipts of any so called 'Upline Distributor.'

      In the adult world of real business, it's unlawful in the UK to sell any form of existing business without first declaring all its available audited-accounts to the prospective purchaser. That said, MLM is not a real business. On the contrary, it's a puerile game of make-believe peddled as a 'business.'

      'MLM' recruitment relies on the exploitation of existing relationships based on love and trust.

      In reality, 'MLM' racketeers train their adherents to pretend to be making money in order to recruit more adherents. They are also told that, in order to recruit, they must never say anything 'negative' (i.e. tell the truth) about what they are doing (as part of a 'proven plan to achieve total financial freedom').

      It's funny Anonymous, but I get the distinct impression that you are trying to execute this transparent 'positive MLM success plan' here on my Blog.

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  13. Having read all the stuff on here. you dont get anything for nothing also when it all sounds to good to be true it is to good to be true! no hard facts or real bank statements. if you are thinking of joining you should go to B&Q and put your head in the paint shaker machine for ten minutes then evaluate your next move!!!

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    1. Great advice gordonheating, but be careful, because there might be certain 'UV' racketeers monitoring this thread who will adapt your advice and peddle a 'unique brain shaking machine guaranteed to eliminate negative thoughts and produce the MLM positive/success mindset.'

      You think I'm joking, but recently I was sent links to some media articles about a US company called 'NeuroCore.' This whacky, but profitable, outfit is financially linked to a gang of 'MLM' racketeers - the DeVos Clan of 'Amway' notoriety

      The bosses of 'NeuroCore' peddle a series of 30 treatments (at $100 a pop) with a device which they claim can make you, and your children, more intelligent. Not only that, but the same device is supposed to be able to correct common psychological/behavioral problems (particularly in teenagers).

      http://mlmtheamericandreammadenightmare.blogspot.fr/2017/01/betsy-devos-and-neurocore.html

      Betsy DeVos and her husband, Dick, bankrolled the 'NeuroCore' racket with $25 millions.

      Betsy DeVos is Donald Trump's new US Secretary of Education.

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  14. Oh dear someone has all the incorrect information,
    1: uw is not pyramid selling, in fact no selling involved at all! The clue is in the full title. DISCOUNT CLUB
    2:Not a cult either,
    3:Company profits/turnover is announced regularly to distributors
    4: Company is highly recommended by which time and time again and wins regular awards from other sources.

    My advice to you is go get a correct insight into a properly run company that has been around for 20 years and is going from strength to strength

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    1. Anonymous says: "no selling involved at all!," but we can all clearly see that UW, and its transient adherents (no matter how they are arbitrarily labelled), have been peddling an 'MLM business/income opportunity' to the public and hiding the quantifiable results of this economically-suicidal activity in order to lure a never-ending chain of fresh adherents into the trap.

      Your familiar script, and your transparent pretence of moral and intellectual authority, only confirms the accuracy of my overall analysis.

      Typically, you completely ignore what I have written and instead, offer a blanket denial of my accurate analysis as 'incorrect information' (a la Donald Trump).

      The UW front-company's profits/turnover information which you boast the bosses of UW have made available, is not what is as issue here. What's at issue is the lack of overall net-profits for UW's transient contractees and the number of these insolvent contractees who have been churned.

      Plenty of 'MLM' rackets have been around for decades, indeed the 'Amway' racket was instigated in 1959.

      As Bernie Madoff proved, when it comes to scams, longevity is no guarantee of honesty.

      In short, you may take your unsolicited advice and shove it up your arse.

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  15. We got talking about utility warehouse at work, because a colleague is a recruiter, so I thought I'd have look on the net.

    I knew it's weird, but I didn't realise how weird till I found your blog David.

    What can you say to a recruiter to put them off? Our's never gives up.



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    1. James - There isn't one answer to your FAQ, because what will put one 'MLM' recruiter off might not work with another one.

      Although a lot of people find it difficult to be rude, telling an 'MLM' recruiter to 'piss off,' can be very effective.

      You've probably discovered that most polite 'MLM' refusals have been anticipated by 'MLM' racketeers, and 'recruiters' usually have a scripted-response.

      You could also try complaining to senior colleagues.

      Some people have even put off 'MLM' recruiters by pretending to be 'distributors/recruiters' for another 'MLM.'

      BTW, I'm curious to know what your job is. If you don't want to tell me in a comment you can contact me via: axiombooks@wanadoo.fr

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  16. Greg Norman was in the UW advert you posted. I looked on the net and he promotes another MLM called Organo Gold.

    What Greg Norman says in this OG video is crazy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGErewZ0yVU

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    1. Skeptic - Greg Norman is not the first celebrity golfer to become associated with a scam.

      http://www.journeyman.tv/?lid=9032&tmpl=transcript

      What Greg Norman pretends in the video link you posted (in return for stolen money) - that the Organo Gold Opportunity is infinite - is not only crazy, but also fraudulent.

      The Organo Gold racket was also promoted by a less-well-known sports celebtrity in the UK, Ben Cockayne (a rugby league player).

      Lately, video material featuring Mr. Cockayne peddling the Organo Gold racket has vanished from Youtube, but apparently he's still involved.

      https://uk.linkedin.com/in/ben-cockayne-01a59196

      Previously, Mr. Cockaine was involved in the 'Herbalife' racket.

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    2. Fuck! I thought Gary Player was an old fashioned gentleman.

      How can Greg Norman not see that MLMs are scams?

      I thought it's a joke "Cocaine," but the rugby Bot is Cockayne.

      If Herbalife is so fab, why did Cockayne leave? He says he was making millions of linkedin?

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    3. Sorry Skeptic, I spelled Cockayne wrong in the last comment. I too thought this name was a joke at first.

      Mr. Cockayne doesn't actually claim to have made millions in 'Herbalife.' What he says is:

      "He’s was previously a Millionaire Team Member at Herbalife UK meaning his business did annual sales of $1m+."

      Clearly this is just a puerile lie, because (as the FTC investigation discovered) virtually all 'Herbalife's' claimed 'sales' haven't actually been sales at all. In the overwhelming majority of cases, they've been losing investment payments made by 'Herbalife' adherents on the false expectation of future reward, which have been laundered as 'sales'.

      Greg Norman was a great golfer, but I doubt whether he is able fully to comprehend what he has got himself into with the 'Organo Gold' racket.

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  17. Network Marketing or MLM is now taught at the Harvard Business School as viable route to market. No I don't know you but you've definately got a grudge against MLM as a subject or as a viable marketing platform. Carnegie once said I would rather have 1% of the effort of a hundred people than 100% of the effort of 1 man. All MLM does is leverage people's network and reward them for it rather than paying for expensive marketing and a sales force.

    There are non so blind as those who will not see

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    1. Anonymous - http://amlmskeptic.blogspot.fr/2013/07/mlm-mythbusting-did-harvard-business.html

      Here's one of the most often repeated MLM myths: Harvard Business School teaches Network Marketing. That is a LIE. HARVARD BUSINESS SCHOOL DOES NOT TEACH Network Marketing, Multi-Level Marketing, or any such similar schemes.

      MLMers who tries to legitimize the industry often repeat the claim that "network marketing is taught in 200 schools around the US, including Harvard Business School", and "HBS studied network marketing in detail and have developed a 3 item checklist to locate the successful ones." Som
      etimes the list is also supplemented by a "4 stages of business success".

      This is repeated ad infinitum by MLMers attempting to legitimate their own particular scheme, be in neutraceuticals and next uberfruit juice to woo bracelets and body wraps to... anything! In fact, search in Google for "Harvard Network Marketing" and you'll get bazillion hits. Okay, about 12 million hits. Almost all of them are lies.

      Here's the honest truth:

      There is only ONE SCHOOL in the US that offers a a degree in network marketing. It's a tiny little community college in Kansas called Bethany College. Technically it isn't even that. It's degree in marketing, with emphasis on network marketing.

      Harvard Business School (HBS) themselves are VERY TIRED of network marketers claiming something they do NOT do. In fact, if any MLM business claim so, it will very likely face a LAWSUIT from HBS, as this article (back in 1995!) had already busted. Quoting from the article:

      ``If the registrar's office had a dollar for every call we've had over the years over whether Harvard Business School teaches multilevel marketing or has studies on it, we could throw a very nice Christmas party,'' reads one internal business-school memo. ``This claim is harder to kill than a dandelion.''
      What was once a nuisance now looks like grounds for potential defamation or libel lawsuits, says Frank J. Connors, a Harvard lawyer. Some handouts, for example, now claim _ falsely _ that Harvard has conducted ``extensive research in the network marketing industry,'' and that the business school calls multilevel marketing ``a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.''

      Got that? REPEAT AFTER ME:

      Harvard Business School DOES NOT TEACH NETWORK MARKETING!

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    2. BTW Anonymous - Contrary to what you have pretended, there is absolutely no quantifiable evidence proving that anyone who has signed up for a so-called 'MLM income opportunity' has ever generated an overall net-profit lawfully by regularly retailing goods, and/or services, to the general public (based on value and demand).

      There is, however, a veritable mountain of quantifiable evidence proving that effectively everyone who has signed a take-it-or-leave-it contract with a so-called 'MLM company' has eventually abandoned their economically-suicidal activity.

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  18. I thought UW was a con as soon as it was pitched to me but I could never have explained exactly why - so many thanks. What I still don't get is how come folk who fall for MLM shit believe in it like a religion? Are they hypnotised or what?

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    1. Anonymous - Perhaps the answer to your question lies in the question itself; because, for its core-adherents, so-called 'MLM' is not 'like a religion,' it is a religion (ie a self-perpetuating non-rational dualistic ritual belief system) but re-written in 'commercial' jargon.

      eg 'Sacred vs Profane' has become 'Negative vs Positive'.

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  19. I have a friend who joined as a distributer last year and she slowly but surely has started to exhibit all the defensive qualities and hallmarks from those that are embedded in a cult but don't realise it. I joined about 5 years ago but just as a customer and on month2 they upped by the charges so I left just a bit disgruntled rather than thinking they were anything nefarious. As someone with uber-OCD I check my meter readings every day and I put them through a s/s to see what my bill is. At no point have UW been the cheapest option. in fact gas is 50% more expensive than Scottish Power March 2018V2. [Though the thread was devoid of actual stat-facts] and is 10% more expensive on electricity when compared to UW cheapest Gold+ or whatever it is called option. Whenever I try and discuss she always gets defensive and comes out with "you need to have all the services to get the benefits" I read an article that shows that their line in marketing is almost true. They are the cheapest of the top 6 on fuel ... IF .... you compare with the average of the top 6 deals. i.e if you are on one of the top6 best deals you will be cheaper. UW is good for lazy and stupid people who cannot be bothered to mve each year but they never quite stich you up as bad a the standard tarrifs from the big6.

    Thank you too because I have been researching UW for 2 years now and struggle to find any negativity online but if true that they have an army of sensors and create their own fake scam sites this now makes perfect sense.

    My friend btw the way is relentlessly always posting about how her bill is only this or that per month but she deducts the savings she has accrued from her spends. ... the more you spend the more you save mistake !!

    I'll be back

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    1. Thanks for your comment MH - if you want to contact me directly, please feel free to do so.

      axiombooks@wanadoo.fr

      Given all the recent media interest in the 'Herbalife' racket, it is quite extraordinary how the bosses of 'UW' have managed to maintain almost an absolute monopoly of information about their activities. However, his is demonstrative of how widely-misunderstood the 'MLM' cult phenomenon has been in Britain. Journalists never know the right common-sense questions to ask, but why should anyone want to keep buying commodities/services in a centrally-controlled closed-market when these same commodities/services can be bought on the open-market for a lower price?.

      'UW' is a classic 'MLM' racket, in that the real reason why people (like your friend) have been recklessly giving their time and money to it, has been their false-expectation of future reward.





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